MyDD :: You never gave up on me, and I'll never give up on you.

You never gave up on me, and I'll never give up on you.

by canadian gal, Sat May 17, 2008 at 03:35:03 PM EST

"There are some people out there who want to declare this race over now, before all the ballots have been counted or even cast. There are some who say they don't know why I'm in this race. So let me tell you why I'm still running.

I'm in this race for everyone who needs a champion. For the hardworking families who are losing sleep over gas prices and grocery costs and mortgage payments and medical bills -- but who never lose that American can-do spirit and optimism.

I'm in this race for the more than 16 million people like you who have supported me -- for the people who have put their hearts into winning this race. You never gave up on me, and I'll never give up on you.

We are in the homestretch. After sixteen months, there are only three weeks left to compete in the final contests. With your help I'm going to keep fighting until every last American has a chance to be heard, and as we learned last night in West Virginia, I know we can win."

HRC

a new anthem?

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represent. (2.00 / 4)

"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum

by canadian gal on Sat May 17, 2008 at 03:36:32 PM EST

Hillary Clinton is the Imperial Japanese Army? (2.00 / 3)

that choice is rather...odd.

by JJE on Sat May 17, 2008 at 03:49:29 PM EST

Re: Hillary Clinton is the Imperial Japanese Army? (2.00 / 2)

I believe there was a point where they, too, thought they were "inevitable".

This might be a more apt analogy than first thought.

should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?

by Firewall on Sat May 17, 2008 at 03:56:57 PM EST
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One word. (none / 0)

Kamikaze.

by sidwood on Sat May 17, 2008 at 04:23:09 PM EST
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Re: One word. (none / 0)

Kind of made me think of shiny, happy people. Don't know why.

by futbol dad on Sat May 17, 2008 at 05:13:07 PM EST
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Generational difference in understanding.. (none / 0)

If you are older, or know a lot about 20th century history.. the sunrays signify the flag of "The Greater East Asia Co Propserity Sphere" - yes, the Imperial Japanese Army.

NOT a good thing to be emulating. This flag STILL represents MILITANT nationalism in Japan, as well as the Japanese version of Holocaust denial.

It also makes Chinese people get VERY angry because of the STILL LARGELY UNRESOLVED issues related to the mass murder of millions of Chinese in some of the most terrible atrocities known to have ever occurred.. (like the slaughter - BY HAND of ~300,000 Chinese, mostly women, children, infants and old people, in Nanjing, over just a few days, a slaughter that shocked even the Nazis who were there.)

However, younger folk in the US see those kinds of designs as a 60'ish kind of thing, comparing them with the posters of the great artists of that era..

Universal healthcare IS a Democratic value
It's been defeated
Obama has the best $PIN that money can buy.

by architek on Sat May 17, 2008 at 05:46:34 PM EST
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Re: Generational difference in understanding.. (none / 0)

Actually, I was linking it to to the REM song in the video. Gotta love the muppets! Especially in the theatre!

by futbol dad on Sat May 17, 2008 at 06:12:35 PM EST
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Re: Hillary Clinton is the Imperial Japanese Army? (none / 0)

I guess I didn't get that - Looked more to me like the posters of Chairman Mao.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Sat May 17, 2008 at 04:00:05 PM EST
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Re: Hillary Clinton is the Imperial Japanese Army? (none / 0)

i thought that was christopher walkin.

by citizendave on Sat May 17, 2008 at 04:20:47 PM EST
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Re: You never gave up on me (2.00 / 1)

I love the Muppets.

I like baked beans.

by SpideyDem on Sat May 17, 2008 at 03:59:30 PM EST

Re: You never gave up on me (none / 0)

Canadian Gal, if Obama wins the nomination, will you still vote for the Liberals in Parliament, or will you go Conservative in protest?

I like baked beans.

by SpideyDem on Sat May 17, 2008 at 04:01:06 PM EST

Re: You never gave up on me (2.00 / 0)

Have some phantom mojo. That's fricken' funny.

Bush murders soldiers for profit. McCain wants to wet his beak.

by awobbly on Sat May 17, 2008 at 05:14:55 PM EST
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Re: You never gave up on me (2.00 / 0)

Maybe she can write in McCain for her MP.

Guess I HR'd someone that I shouldn't have (wish I knew who/how/why, but no admin will talk to me). Have a positive thought instead.

by Robert in WV on Sat May 17, 2008 at 05:26:20 PM EST
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actually... (none / 0)

i may vote conservative due to the fact that insiders in the liberal party smeared bob rae with anti-semetic vitriol because his wife is jewish so that stephan dion could become the party leader. sound familiar? but thanks for asking!

"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum

by canadian gal on Sat May 17, 2008 at 05:57:46 PM EST
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Re: actually... (none / 0)

Vote for the Marijuana Party. 4/20!!!

I like baked beans.

by SpideyDem on Sat May 17, 2008 at 07:05:05 PM EST
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Re: You never gave up on me (none / 0)

I don't think she is Canadian. Canadians love Obama. Mind you Prime Minister Harper and his bush loving supporters don't like Obama or Clinton

by Politicalslave on Sat May 17, 2008 at 07:21:23 PM EST
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Re: You never gave up on me (none / 0)

yep - sorry to break it to ya - i am - and also - all the canadians I KNOW all are rooting for HRC, but none McSame. ;)

"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum

by canadian gal on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:43:07 PM EST
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Honest to God.. (none / 0)

...Canadian Gal, you know I made my peace with Hillary yesterday and my opinion has changed and I see her for what she truly is...a remarkable woman, and I think your diary reflects that..Nice...

But on a lighter side, that first picture of her reminds me of Mike Myers (Canadian) when he played Deiter on Sprockets via Saturday Night Live...Doesn't it??

I'm Ready For A Good Old GOP & John McCain Ass Kickin'!!!

by hootie4170 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 04:12:50 PM EST

Re: You never gave up on me (none / 0)

which state is canada in again?

i keep forgeting.

by citizendave on Sat May 17, 2008 at 04:19:48 PM EST

Why I won't give up (2.00 / 1)

There's a comment that's been running around in my head about why I'll support Hillary Clinton to the end, and I think this diary is the place to post it.

For all the Obama supporters, for me it's not about delegate counts, any one of several versions of popular vote counts, what percentage of superdelegates would have to go this way or that. I don't make arguments why the contest is over and Obama's the nominee, nor do I make them about how Clinton is a more electable candidate in the general election. Other people make those arguments (over and over and over and over.)

For me it's about my discomfort with Obama, and how important it is to me to see him operate on a national stage for a longer time; making the hard calls (not with "present" votes), the necessarily compromised votes, witness him actually unify disparate interests rather than merely talk about it, watch him change something, really, in Washington, and not just talk about it.

The truth is --as I see it-- that Obama will in all likelihood be the party nominee. Come August the only way we'll see a change in that outcome is if something is grossly bungled by him, or something very damaging comes to light that is not yet widely known. Both of those things are at least possible, but not a matter of political strategy.

Nonetheless, I want to see Hillary go after every vote she can, every delegate she can get. It's a matter of principle, for me, because so many have worked so hard for so long to see her through this thing. Obama has not earned the gift some expect her to give him, his platform of hope and change, looks to me like one of hype and hot air. If the majority of whatver-you-want-to-count (pop. votes, delegates, media pundits, etc) are going to buy in, then he gets the nomination, and as usual we get what the process gives us.

I've lived with that reality for enough years that I accept it as how it works. I would vote for him if I had to, but I won't have to. It won't affect the outcome of the general election.

In the meantime, Clinton deserves respect for going after every vote she can get. And no, I don't believe she has to "keep sweet", like a FLDS teenage bride for the sake of the guys in suits. I do believe that when and if she makes the decision to suspend, end, or continue her campaign that she should make that call as she sees fit, and I will support her in that.

This is not just a "what's good for the party" issue. If Obama can't win a general election under these intensely favorable circumstances because he can't win over ardent Clinton voters, than he has a core problem that is HIS problem.

I believe both Former President and Sen. Clinton will, if/when it comes to that, support Obama's run for president, because they are professionals. I, however, like many others am not. And I would be disappointed by nothing so much as seeing Sen. Clinton close up shop before all the votes have been counted It's not about the math or the map, it's a matter of principle and more importantly, of making history.

by Susan in Oregon on Sat May 17, 2008 at 04:20:17 PM EST

Nice statement.. (2.00 / 2)

I do, however, have one question and one comment about..

If Obama can't win a general election under these intensely favorable circumstances because he can't win over ardent Clinton voters, than he has a core problem that is HIS problem.

1. What about Clinton, should she win the nomination, winning over Obama's "ardent supporters"? He has earned about 18 million voters...

2. and "that is HIS problem"... I respectfully disagree as a Democrat. It is OUR problem....

I'm Ready For A Good Old GOP & John McCain Ass Kickin'!!!

by hootie4170 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 04:34:55 PM EST
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There will be work to do (2.00 / 1)

no doubt - but I put my money on Clinton's ability to win over a large number of Obama supporters (and regretfully say good-bye for now to some die-hards) - here's the basis of my position -- once the Obama campaign quits spewing forth lies and disinformation and making opinions sound like they're the truth simply because "the Great One" spoke them -- once the Obama induced race baiting stops -- once the arm-twisting guilt and shame machine stops -- and all Democrats have the chance to objectively evaluate her life's work and strategies on actually getting legislation PASSED - I think that many more will come around. This business of a new face in Washington just doesn't fly - we need someone who can work within the system to bring better economic and social equality to more people.

by pan230oh on Sat May 17, 2008 at 04:57:20 PM EST
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Re: There will be work to do (2.00 / 2)

This is what I mean...You could, very easily, just switch Obama to Clinton and vice-versa and people would think it is an argument for Obama..I give up...If people want to shit on Democratic nominee, by all means they have that right...I'm sick of trying..Good luck to you and the "President Clinton or nothing" mentality..

I'm Ready For A Good Old GOP & John McCain Ass Kickin'!!!

by hootie4170 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 05:02:19 PM EST
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No place to start on these comments (none / 0)

I hope you have a better election next time.

by drmark on Sat May 17, 2008 at 05:25:38 PM EST
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The problem is that a great many of the people (none / 0)

believe that the system is the problem. Change the system, not just the folks running it and then you have something.

"You might well think that. I couldn't possibly comment"

by xenontab on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:48:37 PM EST
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Re: Why I won't give up (none / 0)

When the nomination process is over and Obama is the nominee, and Hillary is actively campaigning for him, pleading with her supporters to vote for him over McCain (possibly even as the VP nominee), and he loses becuase her supporters are too stubborn and childish to listen even to Hillary herself, that's their problem, and their problem that they've just foisted on the whole country.

NJ Hussein Independent

by NJIndependent on Sat May 17, 2008 at 05:12:11 PM EST
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What are you talking about? (none / 0)

Would you please recite to me Hillary Clinton's accomplishments as a champion of women's causes? Leaving the rhetoric and campaigning aside.

You have taken a centrist, self-promoting politician and put her on a pedestal she doesn't deserve. It's fine, except it belittles the contributions of truly great female leaders who have sacrificed and toiled to advance progressive agendas. Hillary Clinton is not prominent among them.

by drmark on Sat May 17, 2008 at 05:09:28 PM EST

Re: What are you talking about? (none / 0)

good topic for a diary.

you would get buried in clint-o-ganda.... and few substantial responses.

by citizendave on Sat May 17, 2008 at 05:15:01 PM EST
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Re: You never gave up on me, and I'll never give u (none / 0)

Why is Hillary done?
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?i d=f7a4a380-c4a4-4f84-b653-f252e8569915

My favorite Muppets? Rock on...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEqFs9Y23 G4

"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"

by nogo postal on Sat May 17, 2008 at 05:51:22 PM EST

Re: You never gave up on me, and I'll never give u (none / 0)

hey..it Saturday night..more muppet rockin'
(you know, for Hillary)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m0yCM5uh QU

"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"

by nogo postal on Sat May 17, 2008 at 05:59:58 PM EST

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